My Dad Found out!

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Location: Belle Vernon, Pa, U.S.A.

My dad found out i was a furry now he's dissapointed in me. I tried to keep it from him but i couldn't.he wasdown stairs yelling screaming,and im up here...just sitting not knowing what to do now i'll defenitally wont get to go to Anthrocon..It seems like my life is falling apart. i'm 16 turning 17 in january,also im a Junior in high school coming from a poor family,wont ever get to apply my inventions. or artistic ability.and he was trying to break down my door and he was screaming your not going to that"Freak Fest". and now hes gone probibly to the bar. what should i do if any 1 has magical powers please take me away im beging you.i need advise please.

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MacroKaiju's picture
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rar...
magical powers to make a drunkard into a sensible accepting father? If I had that power I'd be traveling all over the world fixing people. Unfortunatly I do not and there's probably the chance that he'll never come around to accapting the fandom. It's a sad fact but I do applaud you on doing your best to keep it hidden. But now taht it's out I agree it must feel like you're life is falling apart but please don't. there are mush worse things that could happen to you; it's not the end of the world. I think waht you need to try and do is get back up and just keep doing it under his radar. this is a risky thing to do but it's your life and ya you might get more hell in the long run but you would't be one of us if you didn;t like it. As for AC, unless the world blows up there'll be next year and by then you'll be 18, my advice... save up for a car. 18 + car= nothing he can do to stop you.

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Location: Belle Vernon, Pa, U.S.A.

thanx ill try plus im looking for work but its hard some 1 always gets the job first im runing out of places to apply, plus im scared becuase he had no savings for a futer plan and im gonna be on my own and i dont kno what im gonna do. oh and i like Mushroom head To. Renumdrawun.The artist.

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For Heaven's sake, what is the big deal? Just what did you tell your father about furry fandom that made him react so strongly?

You need to educate the man as to what the fandom is really about. We have tons of FAQ's on this page to help with that.

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Location: Belle Vernon, Pa, U.S.A.

actually he's always been against it ever since i met him he would say"your not aloud to be Queer,Democratic,gothic,or a furry".and as soon as i heard the last one i knew my lif was going to be challenging Renumdrawun.The artist.

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rar...

not aloowed to be "democratic or a furry?" raptor jesus is he Stalin?

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No, worst...Eye-wink

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I see...
I know of a few families that have standards that are set in stone regardless.Even with logical reasoning,it's a no but or if.
There are families that i see that have a standard for having good grades for example and they get critic or even beaten when they do not get A's.
But as long as he's not beating you are fine for the time being,just think about it as the way he shows his opinion.
Your best bet is to as others have said to get a job and move if you can or with a relative that might be best.
Sorry about the situation,but your sanity is important and i do not see why you should put up with it.

The secret is in you.....

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Sorry, I'm afraid my magical powers are limited to turning invisible in pitch black rooms.
But I do have some advice for getting a job. if you have friends that already have jobs, get them to vouch for you. After a seven month job hunt where I sent out at least ten applications a week, I finally allowed my friend to do so. I found myself working two days later.
And of course, don't tell your prospective employer the REAL reason you want to work where you are applying if you get interviews. I only started to want to go to AC a month ago (and i DEFINITELY wouldn't have told them that reason). Before I started saving for that, I told my interviewers that I owed my parents a lot of money. the truth is the wrong way to go about 99.9999% of the time in that area judging by my experience.
And just out of curiosity I promise. how did he find out? you didn't have a fur pic for a background did you? That's how my mom found out while I was powering up my computer.

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on a side note.
If your dad doesn't stop yelling about it while you explain what the reality of the fandom is... JUST DROP IT.
Seriously. If he wants to flail around and scream like an idiot (sorry, this is the impression I have received), then just give the problem time and don't bring up anything having to do with animals (even if you want to make fun of PETA) or even ask about a haircut for about a month.
I don't remember very many people that happen to be lacking that many brain cells being able to remember why they disagree with me after that time period. the next step on my part is typically to humiliate them publicly and show everyone how stupid that person is.
But since he's your dad, I suppose he's probably generally pretty cool and so you might just forgive him.

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I wouldn't advise on humiliating or show how stupid he is as it doesn't make yourself a better person. I wouldn't step down to his level.
If a person is an idiot,is always an idiot. Best to walk away from it. This is from past experience and observation.

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Like I said. I don't do it to family, just classmates that find me to be a jerk when I just don't care about their problems that have no bearing on their future... THIS is not one of those problems and so I actually do try to help people with advice on a method I might use and wish them the best of luck.
If my family members do it, I typically just let it go and say absolutely nothing.

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Gotcha Smiling

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Umm...That really sucks. I'm the same age as you are but both my parents are on more of a "don't ask don't tell" kind of thing. Not that there's any real problem anyway. I reccomend hiding everything and hightailing it(sorry for the pun)to the nearest con the moment you turn 18.

Actually, come to think of it, I live just over 65 miles away from you. Want I should ruff him up? Just joking of course, but I feel that you needed a laugh.

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First off I am really sorry that you are in the situation and that your dad is flying off the handle. It sounds like your father might be reluctant to accept things, and is letting his fears about things he doesn't understand get to him. I agree that you should try and educate him if you can, but if that is just gonna make things worse, then I wouldn't try too hard. Right now I think you have the right idea about working and saving up. I know it is gonna be hard and it may seem overwhelming, but just hang in there and keep trying. If you need support I know almost anyone here would be more than willing to give you encouragement and someone to talk to. I hope everything works out and I hope your dad calms down.

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Awwwh poor you ;-; that's what I'm kinda worried telling my parents, but really I don't think they'd react that serious.. just probally think I'm some crazeh person, more so then they already do.

I really can't tell you anything else more then everyone else has. But I've had troubles in the past before similar to this, getting screamed at, etc.. If you ever need anyone to vent to, well I'm here :3

But if you need to take out any stress, might I perhaps suggest playing a ifghting videogame? I mean it's not much, but whenever I get mad, that's what I do. Or I just draw, helps calm me down a little bit when I get worked up. Whenever my mom's old ex boyfriend used to yell at me,thankfully he's gone, I'd jsut sit there listen to it, then walk off and sing. I dunno why, but it seemed to make things a little better. Maybe if you have any nerby friends you can bunk with them for a little bit? Then again I'd only do that in worst case scenarios

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This is simple. Wait on attending Anthrocon until you're 18+. But first, get a job, save up, get a car, and get a place to live. I'm not sure where you are, but I'm sure you can find something affordable.

So...Job, car, move out. In that order.

Then if you want to go to AC, there's no way he can stop you--as long as you're not still living under his roof or using his funds, nothing to stop you.

I'm pullin' for ya--I had parents only a smidget less crazy >.> And I didn't even give them any clues as to my being furry...even made all my furry art folders invisible on the computer [and I didn't even have any sexual/mature art in them! It was all PG or lower :P]

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>This is simple. Wait on attending Anthrocon until you're 18+.

THIS.

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My parents were more of a "How much is THIS gonna cost us?" kind of reactionaries, so I guess I don't know everything you are going through, but if your finances are extremely limited, I suggest you become an internet only furry until you can escape the funny farm when you are 18 or so.

People are full of misconceptions about everything, and will often jump to conclusions, particularly when they THINK they are protecting their children. Remember that no matter how bizarre the behavior they exhibit, they wouldn't act that way unless you mattered to them. Of course they could also just be drain bammaged.

Get a good education, try to get scholarships etc if you can and go away to college.... I hear Pittsburgh is nice *wink wink*

One more point here is that if you don't have the money to participate in furry stuff, he can't really prevent you from doing something you can't afford to do anyway, so........ don't let it bug you.

Jeef

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Yeah, this seems to be one of those, my house, my rules situations. Like a lot of folks suggested, I would just wait until you have the means to move out and then attend. ...and don't stress over this. There are a lot of obstacles you'll have to endure in life. The trick is not letting yourself get crushed under their weight ^_~ You'll be okay. Just take your time and do what you have to do to make your life a better one...even if that means enduring for just a little while. *hugs*

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Thanx guys i love this site theres so many nice people. I wish i had friends that were like all you but i dont, i just have friends that are normal peoplew, but at least i have friends ^_^ thnx!

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Well, the simplest answers that I give to people when they ask about why I go to conventions are some of the people I have met. I've been very fortunate to have been able to dine with past Guests of Honor like Floyd Norman, Scott Shaw!, Stan Sakai, and Rob Paulsen. (I was actually quite delighted that Rob actually saw me in the restaurant and asked me by name to join him for breakfast.) Being able to converse with animation legends and prominent voice actors is really a big draw to Anthrocon for me. And this year we have some pretty great guests as well. (I love that Joe Harris (creator of Underdog and many General Mills characters like the Trix Rabbit will be attending in 2009.)

As far as family being concerned, why not invite them to come along? Our chairman's parents, Grandma and Grandpa Kage, attend every year. It's quite a lively weekend, and there are plenty of new friends to be made. There will be dances, comedy and performance shows, and lots of panels about art, some science like the HAM radiofurs, costuming and puppeteering, and lots more. Only about 15% of our attendees will be in any sort of costume, so it's not like everyone will be in fursuit.

As far as moral support, you know that you can find that here. Anthrocon is a place where you make lots of friends with wildly different interests. Some may aspire to be animators, some web designers, some may be professional artists, and some may work in offices. We're a diverse group with really vivid creative and artistic streaks. If you can't attend in 2009, set your sights on 2010. But don't feel like the world is coming to an end. Your world and life are just getting started! Just think of the many great adventures and friends you have to make. Smiling

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Feh, you can furry and Republican.

Just look at Jim Groat, fer crying out loud!

And then there's me. >:3

So, he goes off to the bar alot, does he? I discount the opinions of people who drown their troubles in substance abuse automatically.

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I must be the luckiest guy here. I'm 19, trying to go to the next anthro con, would love to make it. In order to go, I'd need to tell my mother (Single parent) where I'm going. (she worries). So, I explained to her, what it is, and told her where I want to go, she said one thing only. "I'm coming too." XD

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All attendees Moms are permitted to hang around with the Dorsai.

Srsly.

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What about dads? Eye-wink

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Dads are eeevvvviiiiiilllll. I oughta know, I've been one for years. Sticking out tongue

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I can't say from experience of being a father, I don't really have the intention to get children, but my father was a really cool man. Terrible temper, but a nice guy. Until he got re-married. His wife (who was terribly fugly) brainwashed him into never speaking to us again. Shame too. Their daughter looks just as bad as the mother.

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Er, that was a joke, son. (puts on faux Foghorn Leghorn accent) Ah say, son, ah'm jokin'!

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Well, yes. I knew you were joking, but the joke was true, to an extent of my father. Currently, anyway. Which brings up Foghorn. I used to watch looney toons, and I can't believe it's been banned, or deemed violent. Yes, characters got crushed by boulders, but you didn't see the extent of the violence, being crushed can produce. Anywya, that's way off topic of this thread.

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haha nice, my parents went with me when I went two years ago. My mom really liked the fandom actually.

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That's really cute. Someone else posted like a letter from their mom like this last year which was like "this is going to be so fun!" and I smiled a bunch.

This could be this year's smilemom. Thanks, Seto's mom!

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isn't there a sexual subtext to this "furry" thing?...it is kind of odd....i mean, because i like old 'bullwinkle' cartoons, that doesn't really make me a furry right? i have to want to dress up like him and get a "special feeling" when doing so....this is probably what dad's disturbed by

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No, you don't have to want to dress up like Bullwinkle and "get a 'special feeling'" while doing so. I liked cartoons my whole life, and still do--even *mock gasp* NON-furry ones!

C.S.I., Vanity Fair, MTV, etc. have pervaded the idea of a sexual side of furry being the main reason to join the fandom. You don't have to want to dress up in a suit and go around humping anything that breathes to be a furry!

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There is no more or less of a sexual subtext to Furry Fandom as there is in any fandom. As mentioned above, the mainstream media seized upon these aspects in order to sell their stories.

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isn't there a sexual subtext to this "furry" thing?

As there is a sexual subtext to life itself; but more specifically, as the age of the fandom skews away from the adult and middle-aged males who created much of the anthro material out there, for animated movies, comic books, advertiseing and literature - both juvenile and adult - and into more college-age and high school aged young people of both sexes, particularly the guys...everything can be worked into a sexual subtext. But in answer to the question - NO. It is NOT primarily or even secondarily about Sex.

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...i mean, because i like old 'bullwinkle' cartoons, that doesn't really make me a furry right?...

The term "Furry" originally referred to the anthropomorphic critters themselves; the fans were "Furry Fans", but now the term has blurred from careless use to the point that it is ambiguous.

But YES - enjoying adventures of imperialistic Moose und Squirrel DOES make you a "furry fan".

If you can identify ANY early Jay Ward or Hanna-Barbera Cartoon character - and initially, there were ALL Anthro Animals - then you are a furry fan. Huckleberry Hound, Rough & Ready, Crusader Rabbit and his Tiger Pal named Raggs, if you understand "Smarter than the Average Bear", "Sufferin' Succotash!", "Can't get enough of that Sugar Crisp Cereal", or "Kellogg's Sugar Frosted Flakes...They're GrrRRREAT!" then you are a "furry fan".

Read anything by E.B. White? Commenter on Financial matters and elements of writing style, Essayist and associate editor for The New Yorker and the Wall Street Journal? Very nice. But the man will be best remembered for his stories about a mouse named Stuart Little, a pig named Wilbur, and a spider named Charlotte.

"Bark we all, Bow-wows of Folly,
Walla-Walla, Wash, and Kalamazoo!
Nora's Freezin' on the Trolley,
Swaller Dollar, Califlower, Izzie-Garou!"

Sound the least bit familiar? That's from the classic satyric comic strip, "Pogo Possum". If you remember it, you are a furry fan.

William Randolph Hearst, media giant, was a furry fan. He had a standing order with all of his editors of the vast Herald Tribune chain and his other newspapers, that they would carry the comic strip "Krazy Kat". His editors hated it, because readers couldn't understand it. Hearst enjoyed it so much, that he - for all intents and purposes - bought the artist, essentially condemning him to continue drawing the cartoon until he died (Heast thought he was being kind to Herriman).

We invoke animal names and powers to market things, or to imbue them with qualities that we consider powerful and animal-like, even though those qualities are human qualities draped over the animals; this is sentimental anthropomorphism. We drive cars called Cougar, Impala, StingRay, Pinto, Maveric, Mustang! A VW Rabbit is just an Audi Fox in Wolfsburg cladding.

Sit down with a piece of paper, and draw two columns; in one, make a list of human characters - by name - from literature, cartoons, movies, commercials which have left a lasting impression with you. In the other, make a list of all the animal characters, from literature, cartoons, commercials, movies, which have done the same.

I bet the animal character list fills up AT LEAST as full as the human one, and probably is easier to fill.

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...i have to want to dress up like him and get a "special feeling" when doing so...

Sez Who? Most furry fans are not costumers, and do not wear fursuits. Those that do, do so for a variety of resons, mostly having to do with the challenge of costume-making, or for performance reasons. When people put on a mask or disguise, to hide themselves, or to adopt the persona of someone (or something) else, they tend to become freer, less hung up - or more rigidly defined, if the costume or suit is of s specific figure, with known personality. Most of the fursuits - like the "Cosplay" costumes at an Anime Convention, or the "Hall Costumes" at a Science Fiction or Fantasy Convention - are, shall we say, amateur productions, "labors of love" in the best sense. But we have cosumers who make special effects costumes and props for Cinematic productions, worth several thousands of dollars, and which are eirey in that you can't see the seams or zippers. The point is the depth of an illusion. And the performers who commission the suits try their best to "be" like the character that they are portraying, whether it is something from fiction, or their own on-line, role-playing character.

Oh - and that impossible number listed at the top? That's the estimated worth of a certain immigrant from Glasgow, Scotland, who at the age of 13 made his way to these shores as a cabin boy on a Clyde cattle ship, with one US Dime in his pocket - and made a fortune so vast, that he keeps his "Petty Cash" - estimated to occupy three Cubic Acres - in a Money Bin, at the top of Killmotor Hill, in Duckburgh - believed to be an analog to Pittsburgh - and also rumoured to be a charicature of Andrew Carnegie. He is so famous, even Forbes Magazine - though admittedly tongue-in-cheek - will in print acknowledge him as The World's Richest Duck.

Scrooge McDuck. Perhaps you have heard of him? That would make you a Furry Fan!

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That's from the classic satyric comic strip, "Pogo Possum". If you remember it, you are a furry fan.

(emphsis added) I probably should've PMed this, but I couldn't resist: is that a Freudian slip? Eye-wink
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is that a Freudian slip?

I sure would like to say that, but I'll 'fess up and admit that I was just careless. I generally have a good eye for spelling, but when I typed it the other way, it just didn't look right; after seeing it posted, I knew I had made a made a mistake...this is the risk with my overly-wordy replies, and I can see that a bunch of really silly spelling and grammatical errors were in that one.

Generally, you can tell when I am rushed, or overly-tired, by the quantity and nature of the errors in my posts.

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That's from the classic satyric comic strip, "Pogo Possum". If you remember it, you are a furry fan.

Or you went to Anthrocon in 2007. Smiling

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if it's nothing more than innocent fun why is OP so upset that his dad "found out"?...and his world is "falling apart"? sounds more like he was caught with gay porn

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Because some people are close-minded bigots who want NO sort of deviation from what they deem "normal"--like my mother was when she discovered my furry art, all of it PG-13 or lower (Nudity, but not frontal, and certainly tasteful/artistic).

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well... what we do here is considered "taboo" by most people who as mentioned above think we all hump everything that moves and dress up in funny outfits. Unfortunately, they don't want to listen to our point of view about the fandom either and so they continue to be idiots that just yell to muffle the sound of us explaining something they might actually find attractive about the fandom and join the ranks of "freaks".
I had an unfortunate incident when I had to hurt someone and pin them against the ground before he stopped laughing at me and bringing up yiffing...
And I think he might still be mad at me for taking necessary actions to shut him up and explain logic to him.
I actually don't think i know what I would have done if my parents had a similar reaction to your father either Renumdrawun. All I can do is refer to my earlier advice about letting the situation cool down and don't even ask about getting a pet for the next 6 months or so. And stay away from furry pics unless you ABSOLUTELY KNOW your father is not around to keep him from exploding like that again.
And finally. If it happens again, whatever you do, DO NOT YELL BACK!!! I did on a similar issue with my parents and my dad took my PC's powercord away.

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Well, I myself, think it's relatively simple. The media made a bad image for furries. Focusing in on the worst parts about it, but leaving out the good parts. Armed with knowledge that is not only incomplete, but the negative aspects amplified, it's no wonder he acted the way he did.

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I believe that OP himself has bought into the common misperception of Furry Fandom. He's not been to Anthrocon and hasn't had much contact with the Fandom. As far as he knows, it really is like the CSI portrayal, and that is what is coming across to his father.

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Agreed. A good point. The father, if you look at it a certain way, created the bad image of furries for himself. (Based on the posts I've read, anyway.)

By choosing to believe the media, rather than scoping the fandom out for himself, he inadvertantly made that bad image for himself, without realizing how one sided it is to do such a thing. Seeing as there is always two sides to a coin, good and bad. The furry fandom is no different.

I'd like to point out, the media being mentioned, this topic truly does show how money grubbing the media is. Rather than showing the furry fandom, for what it truly is, they went with the option that would make them more money, no matter how exaggerated the story is.

Now, I'm certain you all know this information for yourselves, but now you know this... in my words.

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if it's nothing more than innocent fun why is OP so upset that his dad "found out"?...

Only the OP (as you refer to him) can answer that, and that answer may not bear any connection to what Furry Fandom actually is, but rather what he and his father think it to be.

I gather from his posts that he is upset because his father is upset, and "upset" may be an understatement; in his father's case, it is certainly an over-reaction to the actual situation...but let us be fair, and examine the situation a little more closely.

Our young artist friend makes references which imply that this man may actually be his stepfather; he mentions when he "first met him". There is a tendency for relations between...er...step-relations, to be somehwhat strained, especially between daughter/stepmother, and son/stepfather; a partial rivalry and a vision/communication path that is something a little less than eye-to-eye. That might be the case here.

And looking up Belle-Vernon PA on a map and doing a general search for a chamber of commerce or similar website, one discovers the place to be upstream along the Monongahela River, a place which probably was tied heavily to the steel-making industry and economy, and somewhat "blue-collar". Nothing wrong with that, says Vulpes Rex, patting his Union Card - but it is probably the sort of place where economic life is at best a struggle, and to make it you have to be strong and probably quite conventional. It isn't the sort of place (so I gather) where you want a son who would rather take piano lessons than play football, you want him to develop practical interests and practical skills, if he's going to survive on his own. His father's reaction reminds me very much of an "Archie Bunker" mentality, which may not be a bad thing, or uncommon, given the situation I believe that Belle-Vernon has. But anything that doesn't smack of "Normal" or "Fitting in" is probably going to get discouraged and repressed, rather than encouraged. There may be other factors at play here - and for all that any of us know, they MAY be influenced by preconcieved notions and expectations of acceptable, "normal" behaviour on the part of our young artist's step-father, and how closely he can measure up to them, or even reject them - but that is NOT the fault of, nor a property of Furry Fandom in general, nor AnthroCon in particular.

The staff of AnthroCon, and most of the older fans who participate as artists, dealers, vendors, or program presenters, have worked to maintain a wholesome image to their convention, their product, and their fandom. It is, by my observation, an accurate image. Like any activity which has a high order of "creative types" and "artistic types" in it, it does reflect a certain tolerance for people who are, perhaps, "unconventional". The same can be said for Classical Music Concerts, Ballet Performances, Art Gallery Openings, Poetry Readings or Broadway Musical Theater.

Do not judge a thing by the nature or behaviour of a portion of its audience - look for the value in the thing, itself.

Renumdrawun's picture
Location: Belle Vernon, Pa, U.S.A.

Thanx for the advice guys ^_^ and Vulpus Rex is mostly right i didn't meet my real father till i was 14 and thats the one that fliped out hes over it now i think. besides its not like he never talked to me before any way. and i havent been on dieviant art for a while so there is no new art pieces by me until i find my password. Grey Fox, Guilltien Marx

Kesslan's picture
"Sweet baby Jesus on Rye Bread!"

Location: Canukistan

I definately agree, that the best way to work it all out is to simply try to explain to your father what -you- see the Fandom as.

Plenty of other peoples parents have found out about their kids being Furry. Some are cool with it (And for being cool with it, extra cool parents) right from the get go. But not all parents are. One local Furry where I live, his parents are....

Uncomfortable with it.

But in the end he's their Son and while they may not allways understand or like it. They get along relatively well anyway. I'm also not sure he's ever really explained to him what 'Furry' really is.

Espeically since to different people, it means different things. Some people it's actually abit spiritual. And for different reasons. One local furry here sees it as abit of a spiritual thing, but he's also of Native American descent and he sees it in a way something akin to a Totem. With other furries being just people of similar beliefs and/or interests. And he's not exactly big on Furry porn etc either.

It's just like the suiters here too. They runa round downtown here in the summer with abunch of us tagging along. most people are ammused with it. Some think we are 'freaks etc. But most people see it for the simple fun loving that it is.

Many people admittedly eithe rdont get it, or have the totally wrong idea thanks to all the stupid crap the media puts out about the furry fandom. But even some of the Media are comming around to realizing... furries are not really that bad.

That said some people allways are and allways will be bitter little predjudice buggers their entire lives. From what I've read your Dad seems like he probably just.. over reacted out of ignorance.

In the end it's up to you and what you feel comfortable doing and saying. And it does pay to be abit careful about how you approach it all. However some of the best people to talk to about it probably are folk like Kage and also Potaroo who chairs Camp Feral! As his parents came to Feral last year and are apparently infact comming back. I'm sure you could find other furries in similar situations, and if it puts your dad at ease, perhaps you could even arrange for him to talk with the parents of some other furries (preferably ones who see it in a positive or at least not negative light).

How ever it works out for you though,
Best of Luck.

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