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So I just joined today actually, but umm yeah. I have a few questions that need answered and hopefully be less confused. ._. I've never actually wore a fur-suit before, let alone heard about furries other then a year ago. I always was into anthrpomorphics and the such, drawing and roleplaying. I even had myself an anthro character waaay before I even heard of furries and fur-suits. I really, really want one now. I found someone on youtube that may open comissions around christmas and I can get a nice partial for $200. Well I have to pay for the suit myself out of christmas money and it may set me back abit for attending Anthro Con. Just out of curiousity, about how much doyou think the whole trip will cost? xD I mean actually I like just two hours away from Pittsbrug, so we could drive. It's not really the admission fee for Anthro Con that bothers me, but more so the hotel. How many days would we reserve for the hotel do you think? Like it'd be nice to get there the day before, and then possibly leave the last day of the con, or the following day. I know AC has something with those two hotels, and I think The Westin is the cheapest. So how exactly all does that work out? I mean getting a reservation, paying and stuffs. *clueless to all of this* I'll be graduating high school this year, and I'm a very sheltred child, I don't know how alot ofthings in life work out. I'm planning on getting a group of people, or trying, to come with me and my bf. So we can all stay in one room and chip in on the hotel fee, and ofcourse there my friends, so it makes sense. x3 So far I have me, my boyfriend, and one other friend for sure. I'm waiting on two other people to get permission from their parents. DO yo uthink this is a good plan to go with? And we could bring air matresses to make up for bed space. xD Now by the time AC comes around I'll be 18, my bf 20, my one friend and one another, I think, will still be minors. So how does that work out exactly? I mean is there a form they have to fill out and send you through snail mail, or something? My family is abit iffy about me going, but I'm determined and I'll be 18, so it equals out. They really don't know alot about the furry fandom, and I haven't told them exactly that I'm a furry. So how would you explain that? I mean the only thing they know about furs are well.. the CSI episode v.v And they think I'm crazy for paying so much for all of this, the suit, hotels then admission fee, etc.. Any advice? ._.; Plus they don't like the idea of me and my bf two hours away to ourself, which always helps that conflict with bringing some friends along. *falls over from so much typing* This is one of my last questions I promise. It's a rather silly one though and I feel dumb asking. How come in most fur-suit videos I see, no one talks in their suit? o.o Someone said it was like some sort of code or something, so does that mean I can't talk? x_x; *feels even dumber* oh and any tips at all would be appreciated, I mean much, much appreciated. Thanks for reading this all, sorry it's so long. I think far too into things. Oh one more thing, when do you think would be a good time to reserve a hotel room and admission for Anthro Con? WOuld like now be too early? x_x |

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Welcome, Zombie!
First of all - I would suggest that you look to that sidebar on the left side of this page, and read the items clickable under "Attendee Info", particularly the ones labelled "FAQ" and "New to AnthroCon?" and "Standards of Conduct". This will give you a fair start!
Also in that sidebar, under the topic of "Travelling Info", you will find the subject "Hotel". This should inform you of the rates secured for AnthroCon attendees at our two hotels, and how to secure them. Also in our General Forums, there is a forum specifically for discussing the hotel, monitored by hotel staff to help you, wih turn-around on a question usually by the next business day, if not sooner.
The official room-occupancy limit is four people; which generally works out to be the best compromise for both splitting costs and keeping your sanity under control. I personally arrive in Pittsburgh on Thursday to check into the hotel and get my convention registration and badge, though officially the convention doesn't open until Friday. More than half of the attendees have arrived by then, so it is a good time to socialise, or see some of the nearby sights of Pittsburgh, with a social "mixer: or dance that evening. The convention ends - officially and in fact - on late Sunday afternoon, after which there are final parties and get-togethers, to blow off steam, do after-action reporting and planning, and preparations for the staff to pack away and transport all the convention trappings until next year. Many people depart Sunday Night (after checking out of the hotel by noon, to save on a night's expense), but most depart Monday morning, or even tuesday, using Monday to play tourist.
When you stay at a hotel, you are charged by the night; so Thursday night, Friday night, Saturday night, Sunday Night, depart Monday morning, equals 4 nights. You should make reservations reasonably early, but ONLY after you are sure that you WILL be attending; the hotels this year are charging a non-refundable deposit for the first nights' stay, which is forfeit if you later cancel or otherwise fail to show.
Since you are reportedly about 2 hour's drive away, consider arriving with a hotel check-in on Friday, and departing Sunday Evening; this will limit your expense to two night's stay, but you will need to be checked out of your room before noon on Sunday, otherwise you will be charged for Sunday night as well - and then you might as well spend the night, anyway.
When making your eservations, it is best to do it with a credit card, NOT a debit or other type of card; if using the credit card, the hotel is holding Mastercard or Visa for the funds, not you, and your credit limit should be enough to bear the total cost of your stay, plus another night's worth to cover damages or room service or phone calls to Tahiti or all-night adult pay-per-view, or any other miscellaneous charges (don't worry, any time you do something which will cost "extra", there will be a printed warning about the charges first, OR it will be detailed in the "Guest Services Information" book usually left on the writing desk, describing all the services available to guests, and associated costs).
IF you make the mistake of paying for the room up-front on your debit card, the hotel will put a "hold" on a large chunk of YOUR bank account, until all accounts are settled - which could make cash withdrawals from ATMs unavailable to you, or expose you to writing checks which will not be covered by sufficient funds, that is to say, "bad checks". You really do not want this, so use a credit card to reserve the room, mmmkay?
One final note - you DO NOT NEED a Fursuit to attend AnthroCon, nor even to be a Furry Fan. The great majority of attendees do not have, let alone wear, fursuits. That is one major expense that you can dispense with, UNLESS you wish to concentrate on that branch of the fandom which makes and performs in Fursuits. There is a forum here just dealing with those issues; I believe that much, if not most of the pleasure derived from involvement in this pursuit, is the designing and making of your own suit, using your own skills. Make the effort, and you will be surprised at how many "old paws" will offer advice in this field (just don't expect them to hand over all knowledge on a silver platter, just for the asking; you may have to "earn" some of it, by trying out a path of construction on your own, before you ask "how do I do this").
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Thankies :3 You explained the whole hotel thing better for me now. I'll have to talk to my friends about it, but we'll probally spend three nights ^-^ Which I can manage myself if it comes down to it x3 *makes note to check out of hotel by noon on sunday*
Oh I know I don't have to wear a fur-suit, I'd just like ot if I got the change. I think it'd be fun. Besides I've seen alot of youtube videos of people at AC in suits and I think I'd like it. I most likely wouldn't stay in it for the whole time, but take breaks in and out of it xD
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We also have a specific FAQ for young people that covers such things as explaining the fandom to parents. Even though you are 18 I think it will be helpful.
Furry Fandom is nothing to be ashamed of and nothing that you have to hide from your parents. We're cartoon fans, nothing more. Don't let the popular -- and highly skewed -- image of Furry Fandom color your own opinion. If you think it's something to be guilty about, then no amount of explaining will get your parents to understand it.
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That helps me out thankyou ^^; it's not that I believe that typical label, but my parents do. ;-; Or well atleast my mom does, I don't think my dad knows anything, which is fine by me x3
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FWIW, I've been in furry for about 10 years now, and have never worn a fursuit.
Let me cover some of the other things in your message:
- Minors. They will need to have a signed and notarized form from their parents. That will be up on the site closer to the convention.
- Sharing a room with friends is an awesome idea, and air mattresses shouldn't be a problem. One caveat though: the legal maximum number of occupants in a hotel room is 4. This is due to fire code regulations. More details on that and other hotel issues can be found in our Hotel FAQ.
- Fursuiters generally don't talk in their suit since it would sound muffled, and is perceived as "breaking the "illusion". Doesn't mean you can't talk if absolutely necessary (i.e., "I'm dyin' in here, somebody remove my head please!"), I'm just saying that it's not widely practiced.
Hope that helps! If I missed anything, just let me know.
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I feel kinda dumb now for asking so many questions. xD Thankies you answered lots for me too :3 I was thinking for just meowing in my suit, even though I'll be an ermine xP Just curious if I have a moving jaw on my suit, will it sound any less muffled? *thinks about it a moment* I dunno, my friend was asking me about it a few days ago
Just something else x_x "...and it's all signed and notarized." whats notarized mean o.O Oh and about when do you think would be a good tim eto sign up, cause I plan doing it in advance to make it easier then waiting in a long line.
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Notarized means that it has been signed in front of a Public Notary, an official who will certify the signature. It's a simple and inexpensive process, and notaries public are widely available.
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Oh I see now, thankyou for clearing that up
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85% of AC attendees don't wear a fursuit. I don't wear a fursuit.
There-I just saved you more money than I spend between food and the Dealer's Room.
You're welcome.
For many of us, traveling costs are a large part of the expense. If you're driving
there, that won't be a problem-but I can't answer questions about driving there.
(Similarly, if you take a Greyhound bus there, and buy your tickets more than 14 days
in advance, you'll probably pay very little.)
When to arrive and leave is entirely up to you.
The first official events begin early Friday-not counting a dance Thursday night.
Thursday, we do registration and UNofficial social events.
(Those of us who are meeting friends there like to have a little time to hang out
with them.)
The events run across Sunday afternoon.
Some people leave Sunday, some people Monday. A few people arrive early and leave
late-but that gets expensive. Since you're not working full-time, I recommend you do
NOT do that. I work full-time and I don't do that.
How much are the hotel rooms?
http://www.anthrocon.org/hotel/list
Remember to read the information here:
http://www.anthrocon.org/hotel
Now, the prices per room apply for rooms up to quads, and do not include taxes.
http://www.anthrocon.org/faq/hotel
This also means that you can split a room up to 4 ways and split $131 4 ways to PAY
for the room-so long as you actually get that money in your hands, some people always
have an excuse not to hand over money, which means pick your roommates carefully.
Note this about how many people to a room:
http://www.anthrocon.org/faq/hotel#room_capacity
As to paying for arriving and leaving dates and hotels, note these times:
3pm is Check-in, so arrive 3pm or later at the hotel.
11am is Check-out, so leave 11am or earlier from the hotel.
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As to specifics for all those, I recommend reading all the FAQs a few times, then
posting more specific questions.
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Well, first of all, if you skip the suit, you skip an entire argument.
Most of us (85%) don't wear them. Spend $1000 to wear fur in Summer? I don't even
want to PACK something like that....
You see them in most videos and pictures because they are more interesting to take
videos and pictures of. How many pictures of a bunch of people hanging out or seated
in rooms would you find interesting? Well, that's true of everyone else....
Now, as to the CSI thing, posters recently said the following:
Chiaroscuro:
PeterCat linked to this page (which he wrote):
http://www.tigerden.com/infopage/furry/csi.html
CSI "Fur and Loathing" episode
How accurate is the episode's portrayal of furries?
As may be expected, things were "sexed up" for television. At a typical furry convention only about 5% of those in attendance wear full costumes (fursuits), although many others will wear accessories such as ears, tails, etc. Fursuits are very expensive, starting at about $800 for an "off the rack" mascot-type costume, with some custom-built suits costing thousands of dollars. Many fans make their own, at a cost of hundreds of hours of labor, as well as hundreds of dollars in materials.
With that kind of investment, dedicated costumers aren't willing to wreck their fursuits by attempting to have sex in them. In fact, wearing a fursuit is damned uncomfortable. There is a real danger of heat exhaustion and dehydration from staying in suit too long, or performing strenuous activity. While it's fun being in public, enjoying people's reactions and compliments about your costume, after a while it's a blessed relief to get out of sight and take off your costume head. Conventions have "headless lounges," well-stocked with water, Gatorade and industrial-strength air-movers, where fursuiters can cool off and relax.
Although many fursuiters enjoy being "skritched," many others would prefer not to be touched by people they don't know. The general rule is "ask first." CSI's depiction of an orgiastic "yiffing party" is complete fiction. CSI's production team received some technical assistance for the convention scenes from a professional costumer who is also a furry fan, but the director reportedly would not allow changes to the "private party" scene.
The CSI episode's plot was based on a film called Plushies and Furries by gay filmmaker Rick Castro, which first aired on MTV in 2002. Castro deceived many furries and convention organizers in the making of this pseudo-documentary; scenes were contrived and staged to suit Castro's view of the world, falsely portraying furry fandom as being entirely fetish-based instead of as a fandom that has attracted a few fetishists. Participants in the film have been vilified and all but ostracized from furry fandom. As far as I can determine, the only people responsible for open "furpile parties" are Castro and his associates, trying to catch some fresh meat for a sequel, or the pornographers running sites like fursuitsex.com looking to make a quick buck.
The smart thing is to NOT discuss the CSI episode with them- except to say that it's
a work of fiction, from beginning to end. So, what you DON'T say is specifics on how
CSI came up with the fiction. So, what DO you say?
Maybe you can take some words from NON-FURRIES (like your parents) who attended real
furry conventions (like they're worried about.)
One was a reporter looking for the things CSI made up, who attended FurFright.
FurFright has many attendees in common with AnthroCon.
http://www.hartfordadvocate.com/article.cfm?aid=3873
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How about a local newspaper article about AnthroCon?
http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/07188/799987-51.stm
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Mark Evanier himself had no idea what to expect before the convention, and he posted
in his blog before, during, and after the convention.
He's worked on television and movies for decades, in case you don't know who he is.
You can check his website for some of the things he's worked on.
Here's what he said...
http://www.newsfromme.com/archives/2007_07_02.html#013668
http://www.newsfromme.com/archives/2007_07_05.html#013678
http://www.newsfromme.com/archives/2007_07_07.html#013681
http://www.newsfromme.com/archives/2007_07_08.html#013689
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O_O woah lots of reading, thanks :3 Oh I know I don't Have to have a suit, but I kinda want one. Dunno why exactly, jsut to run around and goof off, and probally have my friends take videos to put up on youtube. I've looked at some sites and really nice, custom suits, like a partial starts at $800 o_e I can't afford that now, no way. But I met someone who said she'd be willing to make a custom, partial fursuit. starting at $200 adding on cost of materials. I'm, really debating about it now, but I'm most likely going to spend my christmas money on one. $100 from both parent makes $200 and then I already have some money saved up, so I should be all set.. but to make i a little easier on myself, I may not just get one and go with having someone make me custom ears and a tail to match my fursona.
Actually I already have four people willing to bunk up in a room with me ^-^ and I know them all in real life. Problem is though Iguess I announced my attending the con too much to my friends and now I have six people wanting to go. v_v so now I told them to find two more people, or when it gets closer go look at the share a room forums. x3
I also tried to explain to my mom and grandma, and they thought I was weird and kinda stupid. I just sorta shrugged them off and said I was attending to have a great time, goof off with my friends and share my artwork. They don't support me 100% on the idea, so basically I'm on my own on this one with planning and stuff.. but hey we all have to grow up sometime right? XD *coughs akwardly* I'm jsut glad they don't disown me, or scream at me, like I've seen some other people's parents react. They already think I'm a weirdo, so it's not really any different.
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Well, they're certainly allowed to think your hobby is weird and unusual, and perhaps it is.
Don't try to win them over on that point; explain to them that you know it seem weird and unusual to them, but, as you've said, it will be a fun time with your friends. Make your plans carefully, and remember that parents can be very good resources for giving good advice even on decisions they don't like- as in, the forms and details of taking the trip. If you show your Mom that it's an important thing, you're taking smart planning steps and will come to her for trip advice, she might well indeed approve more as time goes on.
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I also recommend taking lots of pictures and bringing them back to share. Sometimes you get extra parent points if you demonstrate that you're not afraid of them finding out what you were up to; it helps to frame the weekend as less of a bizarre secret event and more of a fun weekend vacation.
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