Some Complicatons I Need Some Help
Posted by Xneotechnethia (Xneotechnethia) on Wed, 2008-09-17 16:21
 Location: Huntington, Indiana
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Ok I am planning on going to Anthrocon 2009 but theres some problems Ive ben looking forward to this and I dont want to miss it. Ok I'm 18 and I don't have a Drivers Licence I kinda wanted to go maby with a friend or two but idk about my family like my mom and dad prolly wont go because of the money so its up to me mostly to plan this. ok and I am a Graphic Designer and that makeing banners to earn a sponsership thing how do I do that, do you have to have your own furry art to put in it or no because I cant draw Anthro ''Yet'' but anyways I need some ways to get some extra money. |
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Location: Philadelphia area, PA
You don't necessarily have to have a driver's license. What you do need is some form of government-issued ID.I think just about all states issue non-driver ID cards at their DMV offices. I know i carry one.
I'm a little confused by your request about banners and sponsorships, however. If you're asking about being a sponsor for anthrocon, that's just a different membership level, and you select the level you want when you register. You will need to pay money for a sponsorship, of course; if you choose to offset the cost by selling work in artists' alley or the art show, that's up to you.
If you're asking about putting art into the art show, i believe the standard is that you can only receive payment for your own work (as opposed to reselling someone else's). Work in the art show is generally focused around animals or anthropomorphics or "fannish" stuff, mostly the former 2; however, i recommend you talk to petercat if you have work that you think may not be thematically appropriate.
I hope this helps.
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permalinkNo I meen the Banners were you need to help advertize the site?
I am a graphic designer I cant sell my art because its not the same.
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permalinkLocation: Mystic, CT
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You don't need a driver's license per se, but you will need valid identification. A Passport or State ID are the most recommended non-DL identification; a Passport is good for a long period and proves valuable in many situations, especially international travel. A State ID will be somewhat cheaper, and easier to carry in your wallet.
http://www.anthrocon.org/faq/registration includes our official policy on Identification.
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permalinkNo I mene to drive because my mom I dont think likes the idea so I gotta get the money myself and I need to eather get some friends and drive there with them so that they can help with the money to help pay at the hotel and stuff but my mom dosent really like the idea of me going there because she thinks it is wierd but I dont so yeah I need to get a drivers licence so I can drive there is tere a way to get one before it gets neer the time to leave to the convention?
my shcool takes to long we start training in spring so yea I have no time to waste.
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permalinkLocation: Mystic, CT
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Whurf, run-on sentence. Relax, you've got months yet.
>but my mom doesnt really like the idea of me going there because she thinks
>it is wierd but I dont so yeah
Well, we have some good resources designed to help explain to parents just what Anthrocon is about: http://www.anthrocon.org/about-furry and http://www.anthrocon.org/faq/minors are good choices. My recommendation is to say something like "Well yeah, it's a little bit weird. But life's a little bit weird, and this looks like a really fun event. I want to plan it out carefully, save for it, go and have a good time."
>so I gotta get the money myself and I need to eather get some friends and drive
>there with them so that they can help with the money to help pay at the hotel
>and stuff
>I need to get a drivers licence so I can drive there is tere a way to get one
>before it gets neer the time to leave to the convention?
As for transportation, securing the driver's license on your own, you'd want to go through the Indiana Bureau of Motor Vehicles: http://www.in.gov/bmv/ . Study the information on your own, and ask your parents to help you learn: The more practice you get, the more likely you are to pass. Note that for a number of people, it can take two or three times to pass the test (took me twice!).. I'd highly recommend you schedule a first test early, to make room for a second test before Anthrocon if needed.
Also, Anthrocon's forums have a Ride-sharing section. Though those are very quiet right now, you may be able to find rides in with other people from your area. But The idea of traveling and rooming with friends is a good idea: people you know will be reliable, will share the travel and hotel expenses, and have a good time at Anthrocon.
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permalinkHey thanks alot sorry if I screwed up im my wrighting and stuff its just I don't wanna miss this.
Thanks
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permalinkIt should also be noted that you don't need to stay in a hotel room with people you know. I got my own room this past con, advertised it as open in the "Share a room" forum section, and it filled up with several awesome room-mates.
Also, arriving by jet, train, or bus may be a possibility as well. Driving yourself isn't your only option.
EDIT: After doing a search on Northwest Airlines, they have round trips from Indianapolis International to Pittsburgh starting at $240, arriving June 1 and leaving June 6.
If you do the same trip from Fort Wayne though, it jumps up to $700.... :\
I would recommend a bus to Indianapolis, then a jet to Pittsburgh. That is if it's in your budget.
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My Anthrocon 2008 montage video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1xfIYmueKeI
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permalinkhmm thats something that I could look into you mene people who dont know me? Im verry shy but if the only way than yea I'm just afraid of people maby making fun of me or somethin like that because idk much about it..
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permalinkDon't know much about what? The fandom? Aside from knowing that it's a bunch of people who all do some combination of draw/buy/enjoy anthro art and/or dress in costume, there isn't that much to know, except maybe for some favorite artists.
There's some great resources at your disposal, one of which is: http://furry.wikia.com and all the links on the left panel have great information.
And yes, I do mean people who don't know you. If you get your own room and advertise it, I would recommend letting people contact you through aim to get to know them. That's how I got most of my room-mates.
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permalinkok I see um the final question is ok this is the truth ok I know that anthro artists draw adult art and I do like to read like comics like Dogs Days Of Summer by Blotch and some others from artists like Adam Wan and Fluke there great ok but the reason for my mom not letting me go is because of TV
my moms a great fan of CSI and my mom say this episode a while ago and told me thats one of the reasons that she dident like it the show freaked me out I know its in art but I know thas not gonna happen at anthrocon --CSI Fur and Loathing season 4 episode 5-- I looked it up on youtube but yeah.
In this Im not hateing on adult themed stuff or anything else ok
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permalinkLocation: Mystic, CT
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CSI is a work of Dramatic Fiction created for Prime-Time Television. It is not, in fact, a documentary. This causes confusion in people who do not understand things were made up for the show.
Anthrocon is a highly family-friendly convention, as most modern furry conventions are. There is adult art at the convention, but we're careful that artists keep it carefully in check, and only visible to adults. No one's going to be 'furpiling' or such, and just standing in a fursuit is such a hot and sweaty activity the notion of sex in one is generally considered ludicrous and dangerous.
The sum total is that adult art or activities at Anthrocon is rather like hot sauce packets at Taco Bell. If you like it, you can have all you want, but you don't have to have any; you don't use it while standing in line; and if you're only there to grab a lot and head home it's really pretty sad.
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permalinkthis - and if you're only there to grab a lot and head home it's really pretty sad.
wasent like directed at me because of like the topic was it because I wanna go because it looks exciteing some of my favorite artists are gonna be there I love anthro art and fursuits and all that good jazz and I was thinking about even makeing my own fursuit and maby Ill design my own drawings off of the suit Ill need to find out how to make the suit first tho it sounds complicated.
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permalinkLocation: Mystic, CT
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No no, it wasn't directed at you.
Making fursuits is complicated, somewhat expensive, and generally not considered a first-year activity. Only about 15% of attendees bring and wear a fursuit to Anthrocon, and while I wouldn't want to discourage you from doing so, don't feel you need to at all.
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permalinkoh ok so if I go do you think people will like make fun of the way I dance if i was to dance in this kinda thing?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lpvPoo45flo
oh and how do I make friends there Im kinda shy?
but I really wanna like get to know people like the people in this video.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bV_9QSR8iqc
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permalinkLocation: Mystic, CT
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If you go and dance at all in one of the dances, no one will make fun of you. And even if they would, who'd hear it over the music?
As for making friends, well, there's no one best method. A great number of folks use MUCKs, Secondlife, or IRC to communicate with other furries in real-time; Livejournal and FurAffinity are great ways to communicate as well. At the convention itself. volunteering is a great way to meet new people for even the shyest.
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permalinkok you guys have places all over wight Ive only ben able to find about four people to talk to but most wont talk to me like ther the prof artists like Keovi, Blotch ( Havent tryed to talk to him yet) and one of them is BigBlueFox but there always busey and I kind of got discouraged by that like that all you guys would like be like that but idk were can I find more people to get to know? IDK what mucks and IRC is?
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permalinkLocation: Mystic, CT
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Mucks: http://furry.wikia.com/wiki/MUCK
IRC: http://furry.wikia.com/wiki/IRC
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permalinkLocation: Syracuse, NY
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From http://www.tigerden.com/infopage/furry/csi.html :
CSI "Fur and Loathing" episode
How accurate is the episode's portrayal of furries?
As may be expected, things were "sexed up" for television. At a typical furry convention only about 15% of those in attendance wear full costumes (fursuits), although many others will wear accessories such as ears, tails, etc. Fursuits are very expensive, starting at about $800 for an "off the rack" mascot-type costume, with some custom-built suits costing thousands of dollars. Many fans make their own, at a cost of hundreds of hours of labor, as well as hundreds of dollars in materials.
With that kind of investment, dedicated costumers aren't willing to wreck their fursuits by attempting to have sex in them. In fact, wearing a fursuit is damned uncomfortable. There is a real danger of heat exhaustion and dehydration from staying in suit too long, or performing strenuous activity. While it's fun being in public, enjoying people's reactions and compliments about your costume, after a while it's a blessed relief to get out of sight and take off your costume head. Conventions have "headless lounges," well-stocked with water, Gatorade and industrial-strength air-movers, where fursuiters can cool off and relax.
Although many fursuiters enjoy being "skritched," many others would prefer not to be touched by people they don't know. The general rule is "ask first." CSI's depiction of an orgiastic "yiffing party" is complete fiction. CSI's production team received some technical assistance for the convention scenes from a professional costumer who is also a furry fan, but the director reportedly would not allow changes to the "private party" scene.
The CSI episode's plot was based on a film called Plushies and Furries by gay filmmaker Rick Castro, which first aired on MTV in 2002. Castro deceived many furries and convention organizers in the making of this pseudo-documentary; scenes were contrived and staged to suit Castro's view of the world, falsely portraying furry fandom as being entirely fetish-based instead of as a fandom that has attracted a few fetishists. Participants in the film have been vilified and all but ostracized from furry fandom. As far as I can determine, the only people responsible for open "furpile parties" are Castro and his ilk, trying to catch some fresh meat to exploit, or the pornographers running sites like fursuitsex.com looking to make a quick buck.
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permalinkok thanks that explaned it better
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permalinkLocation: Orlando, FL
I'd also point out that as a fursuiter, we take great pains to try and preserve our costumes and keep them looking as new as possible. Some activity that people think is ok, really isn't. Scritching a fursuiter for instance...we generally don't want someone randomly doing this because the fake fur will become matted and may even get pulled out. And unlike the fur on a real animal...once this kind of fur comes out, it's gone for good.
Many fursuits are highly personalized and unique. I have one that is a "quagga". it's an extinct animal, and have never seen another like it anywhere. The stripe patterns were hand sewn into the body and the head. The hooves were custom created. If you spent a few thousand dollars on a costume with this much detail and effort put into it, you would also take great pains to make certain it lasted as long as possible, and wouldn't let people spill anything on it or get it dirty.
Some would ask why people spend so much time and effort into something so unbelievably warm with limited vision and virtually no sense of tactile sensation in it. (You really don't feel much of anything if something touches you and you can't feel much of anything with the costume hand pieces on.) The answer is the same as someone who spends lots of money on Renessaince costuming, or maybe creating Darth Vader, Jedi, or Stormtrooper costumes, or anime costumes. People do this to express their interests and creativity. Some like performance as an artform, some want to express a diffferent personality, and some just want to have fun running around as
someone different". And that's really about as good an answer as anything.
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permalinkI was 16 when I went to my first fur con, which was Anthrocon. My mom (who wasn't my guardian at the time) was worried because she saw the CSI episode so she went to Pittsburgh and stayed in a nearby motel while I roomed with some random furs at the Westin. She did end up attending the con for a day and we saw 2's stand-up show together and she ended up having a really good time. Maybe you should ask your mother to go as well, to see for herself what a real furry convention is.
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permalinkI presume most of your basic questions were already answered.
I'll address the physical aspects- getting to the convention,
and staying at the convention.
Staying at the convention:
when the roomshare forum opens, people looking to cut costs
by splitting rooms will begin posting.
I prefer splitting my room only with people I've known for
months or years, so spending time months before communicating
is a MUST for me. (I'm picky about my room-mates.)
Getting to the convention...
The following methods will get you to Pittsburgh:
A) Car. You don't have one, but the "ride-share" forum will open
as well. You can post on that and read threads and see who's
going your way. Usually, chipping in for gas and tolls is
acceptable-especially with current gas prices!
B) Plane. You are trying to keep your expenses down, so let's
go cheaper....
C) Train. Amtrak has stations in Indiana in Connersville, Crawfordsville, Dyer,
Elkhart, Hammond-Whiting, Indianapolis, Lafayette, Michigan City, Rensselaer,
South Bend, Waterloo, and Crawfordsville.
If you're close to any of those, you can get on a train, and travel to Pittsburgh,
probably by changing trains in another city.
Train travel is slower than planes, but is a lot cheaper and is incredibly
comfortable. (I've been known to sleep almost the entire trip back from AnthroCon.)
Even cheaper than the train, but less comfortable....
D) Bus. Greyhound has stops in Indiana in Anderson, Crawfordsville, Elkhard,
Evansville, Ft Wayne, Gary, Hammond, Indianapolis, Lafayette, Marion, South Bend,
and Terre Haute. Greyhound will get you there the cheapest, except for
splitting gas with someone by car.
If you're not near any city on either list, you'll probably have to carpool it.
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permalinkHey you guys thanks for all the help with this stuff.
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